I've used these for 18" and 20" crash/ride/china cymbals and occasionally things go flying in the air. They're OK with 16" and smaller but don't really have the grip for those heavy items. I'm a hard player, but not the hardest by any stretch. I still use the original clamps for the big items (after finding out the hard way). So, they *slightly* improve setup/takedown times, but it's minimal. I wouldn't buy them again, nor would I recommend for your full setup. I use good quality heavy duty DW stands, so they are most definitely not the issue. Be prepared to be disappointed.